Jack White covers PENTAGRAM

[luciferburns]

Originally Posted by Rhaizes Shadows

So, you're not a big fan of Force I guess.

Big Fan? No. Fan of Al Morris III 's guitar work from that period, of course!

[Shepherd777]

Originally Posted by hellacop

@tnstranger: the best post i ever read here. honestly.

seconded.

[Giallo]

Originally Posted by luciferburns

Not to completely change the subject, i think this cover is merely average and i don't like 99.9% of female vocals. It's a personal thing. In Metal i want to feel like i'm getting my ass kicked by the singer vocally. No female singers for me have achived that for me. In Rock there are some i like. But none that are relatively new.
Favorite female singer of All Time; Ann Wilson of Heart(No surprise there)
When i saw her Live, SHE kicked my ass!

Favorite female singer Wendy O. Williams.

[tnstranger]

Penelope Houston from The Avengers and that chick from Reino Ermitano. She is better than Jex Thoth IMO. If only it was in English so I could really get into it more!

[major briggs]

Originally Posted by tnstranger

Penelope Houston from The Avengers and that chick from Reino Ermitano. She is better than Jex Thoth IMO. If only it was in English so I could really get into it more!

Penelope Houston is my idol. "We Are The One" is the best punk song of all time.

[squeapler]

Ann Wilson is great, though I tend to be more into Nancy. I also have a hard time getting into female vocalists, and most of the ones I like in the rock realm like Chrissie Hynde and Exene Cervenka have a restrained style that wouldn't work for balls-out metal. Janis Joplin would have made a great metal singer.

[Jay_O_Doom]

As I said when I posted this elsewhere, he can do what he likes but if you think this will increase appreciation for Pentagram you're sorely mistaken. When the Foo Fighters covered Iron & Stone, sales of Obsessed records didn't exactly spiral upwards. Foo Fighters fans still to this day probably think Dave Grohl wrote that. This is what will happen here. White Stripes and QOTSA fans will think this is a Dead Weather original and hardly any will bother to look any deeper because they don't need to. Imagine their shock and confusion if they did and they heard Burning Saviour or All Your Sins. I imagine Pentagram's convoluted history would be too much for most of them to take in.

[Falcon]

I'd have been at the Pentagram gig in L.A. sportin' platform heels and a Bubble Puppy shirt if I still lived in SoCal. Herr Walker already disapproves of my fashion sense! I figure I'm safe from harm's reach as long as I don't own an Axl/Lars white leather jacket. Have you ever heard our industrial rapcore side project Stool Sample? Grab the remix album out now. Cvlt to the max, buddy!

As for Jack White?! I'm glad this little stunt has REAL Penta-fans here up in arms and posting on Hellride. Puts a smile on my face to know there are so many Pentagram nuts out there! Back in 1994 I thought there were only about 50 of us in the world. Seeing as I don't ever THINK about Jack White, that's about all I have to say on the subject.

Incidentally, Pellet and Co., you might hip one of your mag acquaintances to the fact that I have a very exclusive interview with Vincent McAllister along with a second big Pentagram feature itching to be published. Also a good interview with Greg Mayne who folks don't hear much about. Not to mention some Randy Palmer quotes that never made it in my first Rewind article. I never taped any of the conversations I had with Bobby, as most of it had to do with him singing guest vocals on Falcon's "On the Slab." We had some great phone chatter, but unfortunately he started nodding out too much the last time we spoke in '04.

[innhel]

Originally Posted by Jay_O_Doom

As I said when I posted this elsewhere, he can do what he likes but if you think this will increase appreciation for Pentagram you're sorely mistaken. When the Foo Fighters covered Iron & Stone, sales of Obsessed records didn't exactly spiral upwards. Foo Fighters fans still to this day probably think Dave Grohl wrote that. This is what will happen here. White Stripes and QOTSA fans will think this is a Dead Weather original and hardly any will bother to look any deeper because they don't need to. Imagine their shock and confusion if they did and they heard Burning Saviour or All Your Sins. I imagine Pentagram's convoluted history would be too much for most of them to take in.

I couldn't have said it better.

[Haze]

Originally Posted by Falcon

Incidentally, Pellet and Co., you might hip one of your mag acquaintances to the fact that I have a very exclusive interview with Vincent McAllister along with a second big Pentagram feature itching to be published. Also a good interview with Greg Mayne who folks don't hear much about. Not to mention some Randy Palmer quotes that never made it in my first Rewind article. I never taped any of the conversations I had with Bobby, as most of it had to do with him singing guest vocals on Falcon's "On the Slab." We had some great phone chatter, but unfortunately he started nodding out too much the last time we spoke in '04.

I'd like to see some of that, especially the Randy Palmer stuff! On the subject does anybody know anything about the material they recorded with him prior to his passing?

[Geof]

Originally Posted by Falcon

I'd have been at the Pentagram gig in L.A. sportin' platform heels and a Bubble Puppy shirt if I still lived in SoCal. Herr Walker already disapproves of my fashion sense! I figure I'm safe from harm's reach as long as I don't own an Axl/Lars white leather jacket. Have you ever heard our industrial rapcore side project Stool Sample? Grab the remix album out now. Cvlt to the max, buddy!

As for Jack White?! I'm glad this little stunt has REAL Penta-fans here up in arms and posting on Hellride. Puts a smile on my face to know there are so many Pentagram nuts out there! Back in 1994 I thought there were only about 50 of us in the world. Seeing as I don't ever THINK about Jack White, that's about all I have to say on the subject.

Incidentally, Pellet and Co., you might hip one of your mag acquaintances to the fact that I have a very exclusive interview with Vincent McAllister along with a second big Pentagram feature itching to be published. Also a good interview with Greg Mayne who folks don't hear much about. Not to mention some Randy Palmer quotes that never made it in my first Rewind article. I never taped any of the conversations I had with Bobby, as most of it had to do with him singing guest vocals on Falcon's "On the Slab." We had some great phone chatter, but unfortunately he started nodding out too much the last time we spoke in '04.

What?!! You mean you didn't tape OUR personal calls laced not-so-delicately with lewd jokes — although I do save the rougher stuff for Pellet; he's seen Bobby naked, so it takes more to shock him — in amongst the rambling discussions of PENTAGRAM, BEDEMON and FALCON, along with other misc. obscure groups we were suggesting the other check out? BTW, I did locate that early Bob Daisley band KAHVAS JUTE, a rambling slab of 70s Australian bluesy prog-tinged hard rock...thanks for the tip! Hey, sounds like the punch line to one of my jokes...

[Falcon]

Originally Posted by Geof

...although I do save the rougher stuff for Pellet; he's seen Bobby naked, so it takes more to shock him...

The Nightman is in! G'day Geof!!

And I thought I was desensitized to stuff from my old job!? I'm afraid I wouldn't go around boasting about seeing Bobby in the buff or having my nuts squeezed when I least expected it by a clowning Paul Whaley. Wait a minute?! I just said that, didn't I?! Okay, so he cooked me breakfast too. But it ain't something to brag about. It hurt, damn it!

[MassDoomFan]

Geof Okeefe kicks serious ass in Frozen Fear

[Mike]

Wow! Didn’t think I would be posting here for awhile since things have been so psycho busy at work. But here I am having gotten out of a meeting early and stuck in a hotel in Riverside (blleecchh!) with some time to kill until the next one. I totally get the entire outlook that ThStranger expressed and my “lifestyle” is closer to his these days than it is to Rich’s or any of the guys he references in his post. I am going to present another side to the coin though.

In my view, it should not only be accepted, but welcomed when the heart of the underground guys blast something like this. The spirit and passion they have for the music, the outright devotional love coupled with the warrior spirit and iron will demand it. It comes from the exact same place in them that leads them to produce music, create and provide boards, invest deeply in labels to help the music they love, write reviews, share rare music, promote gigs and tours etc., etc., etc. I do not think that “cool” has a damn thing to do with it and it does not sit well with me for that tag to be slung at them.

Do I agree with every attack? Would I want to say that myself? Am I a proponent of verbal abuse? No to all those (well except some of the attacks which I heartily agree with or find extremely funny). I do, however, see the part of them it comes from and have benefited immensely from that part and have deep respect for it. All that they have given the scene cannot be removed from that part that makes them fight to defend it. It is not about “cool” it is about protection of something sacred. To someone with the level of heart they’ve bled into this music to have Jack White cover Pentagram for his “hipster” fans must be like seeing a girl you cherish pulled up for an ogling at a wet T-Shirt contest. Those screaming guys don’t give a shit about her at all. Nothing wrong with success and Pentagram actually making it would be like that same girl winning the Nobel Prize…they’d be proud and quite happy for her. Wet T-Shirt contests are not a road to the Nobel Prize.

Winston Churchill was one of my heroes when I was a little kid (grew up in a family with quite a military history). He led an island in standing alone against evil and was a seriously inspirational speaker. As I got older I realized he had some qualities I didn’t like. He though the English superior (being a lot Irish I found a lot about him I don’t like). But I also found things I respected deeply, like the fact that after the catastrophe of Gallipoli (his plan) he, instead of slinking back to his estates in shame and hiding out, which most rich twats would have, he signed up for a much lower rank and went to the front lines and got shot at…talk about putting belief in a cause first with all you have! Lot’s I don’t agree with when it comes to Churchill, but still a hero of mine and deeply respected, because the things I don’t like come from the same fount as the things I love…his deep and unwavering love of his country.

My wife’s sensitivity sometimes rubs me the wrong way…but the vast majority of the time I absolutely love that about her. I would never in a million years want her to be insensitive. Sometimes the bristly rage of the underground against the hipsters might annoy one, but ask yourself how much that underground has given you through their sweat, toil and blood, remember it all comes from the same part…and ask yourself…don’t you really love that part and hope it never changes?
All those who raise their swords for the underground that has given me so much…a salute! You have my deep respect…give ‘em hell!

[MarioSpeedwagon]

Now that's the best post in this topic.